Thursday, March 20, 2008

Zombie jesus causes a ruckus

So the whole zombie jesus thing has rubbed some people up the wrong way, which is, I guess, not unexpected. The most prevalent specific criticism I have recieved is that Jesus died for our sins and I am being disrespectful of him, and of people who believe that that is a fact.

I don't think I have ever felt especially respectful of anyone's 'beliefs', when they are so at odds with what I percieve to be real and possible and plausible. I only really believe in Science, and cold hard facts. I think religions are stories and rules made up to make people feel better and to control them. I believe anyone can believe whatever they want to, but that I should be afforded the same right. I believe that if Jesus really was 'the son of god', he would have a fucking sense of humour, and would find this art contest amusing. I believe that if you don't like it, you don't have to participate. I believe that so long as I am not infringing on your rights as a human being, you should let me do whatever the hell I damn well please.

Like I said, anyone can believe whatever they want to, so if someone believes that I am being offensive by pointing out that the story of Jesus coming back from the dead is extremely similar to the idea of a corpse coming back to life and being a zombie, then they are welcome to believe that. I don't, however, believe that I should care what these people think.

40 comments:

Anonymous said...

*applause*

Hema said...

agreed 100%

Anonymous said...

Here, here!

Anonymous said...

I'm glad you posted this. I was afraid the Jesus freaks had found out where you lived and had you burnt as a witch.

Goose said...

It doesnt surprise me. Think yourself lucky, if it was a whim about Islam people would want your head on a stick.

Jesus didnt right the New testament, neither did his mates.

God didnt write the old testament either.

they never said build a church or write a book, yet people think that these books written by some guys with a much lower IQ then ours is somthing to believe without question.

Spirituality is somthing to be found alone, im pretty sure thats what jesus taught anyway?

Anonymous said...

http://www.zombiejesus.com/

ZombieJesus said...

*Standing ovation*
And happy equinox

Dale said...

I was going to do a "Zombie Renetto" contest, but then I figured that it would be redundant to yours.

:-D

Johnston13 said...

Good.... I had hoped you would say something on the matter....

::applause::

Some of these people’s reactions to this contest remind me how far we still need to go as a society...

Anonymous said...

You're learning the difference between being a self-glorifying "artiste" (ie, anything goes) and being a Youtube entertainer. Which do you want?

Cornelius Prime said...

Right on I feel the same I respect peoples right to religion no matter how stupid, illogical and childish I may personally think it is.

Chris Dianity said...

I don't beleive in God but if there were a GOD I think Oscar Wilde said it best with - " I sometimes think that God, in creating man, rather overestimated His ability" :)

BadAlbert said...

You are clearly the bride of satan... Lesson 1: Religoids have no sense of humour, although god would have to if he created them.

JustJordan said...

Good for you Lilies. I was so afriad that you were going to give in and take down the video and cancel the competition. Way to stick to your guns.

Anonymous said...

being an atheist doesn't make you bad but being a bigot does.

humanity said...

JESUS ... Please save us... From your believers !

Anonymous said...

bigot: : a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance.

So my anonymous friend, exactly how does this apply to original post?

Anonymous said...

(I'm not the original poster)
It perfectly refers to pl's own atheistic views, which aren't offensive by themselves.

I think it's the 'ridiculing' factor that even lukewarm christians find offensive, if not disturbing. So why risk offending innocent fans and subscribers who enjoy her other vids?

The same as if Christians went around ridiculing Atheists. It's a cheap shot, that's all.

Artists love free expression, until it offends THEM. Then it's a whole nother story.

psycoticsinginchick said...

'An harm ye none, do as ye will'
Of course, of course.
I find it ironic that they'll sit there and quote the bible and damn you to hell, but they'll forget two little important bible phrases.

1. "Love thy neighbor as thyself."
2. "Let he who has not sinned cast the first stone."

If they're going to believe in the Bible, they have to go by EVERY SINGLE WORD of it, not just the ones they agree with.

roygbiv said...

At least we got Cadbury Eggs out of it.

Now the whole bunny laying eggs business should be scrapped in place of families having fondue parties.

Fondue Peeps as the opening ceremony!

Anonymous said...

I never used to slam on religions and their followers. All my life I've subscribed to tolerance in the hopes that others would treat me likewise. Unfortunately, as the years have passed, I've learned that the more religious people are, the more likely they are to be hypocritical, intolerant, and judgemental towards others.

In America, the religious right is bent on taking over leadership all the way to the white house and forcing all american citizens (no matter their religious beliefs) to live by the rules of evangelical xtianity. Zealots go so far as to blur national patriotism with religious dogma, so more moderate (tolerant?) followers hesitate to define clear boundaries between the church and state.

Recently I decided that as long as I have freedom to speak my mind, and as long as the "faithful" try to force their intolerant, religion-based ideologies onto people through laws and coercion, I will not remain polite or politically correct.

I really had no intention of entering the EZJ contest until I read some of the insulting comments that were left, and I changed my mind. Poking at the preposterous, pastel candy shell of religious pretense often reveals the ominous, dark center that is religious hypocrisy.

Anonymous said...

You said it all:)

Anonymous said...

Anology: I really dislike my neighbour. He wakes me up at night with loud banging noises coming from his garage. He parks his car and sometimes blocks my driveway. I find his trash on my side of the fence.

One day he has a stroke and dies.

I see his wife and say to her "I'm glad he's dead". I have a right to say it, afterall, it's not illegal (freedom of speech), and I'm not violating the wife's human rights. Most would accuse me of being inhumane.

This is at the heart of the zombie Jesus furor. We can't get on without considering other people's thoughts and feelings. Likewise we expect others to be thoughtful toward us. Who hasn't been hurt by seemingly innocuous words and actions.

Final words, I love Bryony.

Bashfulbully.

primalprincess said...

i love you also

pants said...

A ruckus?!?

Pay it no mind.

Like the sound produced by wind blowing through dry autumn leaves, clever ideas rustle the minds of those incapable of original thought.

You're hearing the white noise of idiocy.

Anyway. . . they'll settle down once they've been turned. . .

juliana said...

you always word things so perfectly! i love that you're not afraid to speak your mind on how RIDICULOUS religion is. have you read the god delusion yet? if not, you should :D

Anonymous said...

If it makes you feel better, I found it hilarious. I've been telling people "happy zombie jesus day"

...however, bit of advice, don't try that one in a church...didn't work out so well. :(

primalprincess said...

well good luck to everyone in the contest i have been watching the different ones and i have to say there are some great ones paperlillies is going to have her hands full trying to choose just one thats for sure anyways good luck all

Anonymous said...

About the whole "annoying neighbor" story:

Let's look at it this way, instead.

Say your neighbor sees his young daughter in the company of a boy who was not a relative and he stones her to death in the middle of the night. Say the loud banging noises coming from the garage are target practice so he can gun down infidels who don't share his religion. Say that his death is due to his role as a suicide bomber in a crowded market, and his wife is filled with joyous pride and praise for his martyrdom and for his god, and she vows to raise the rest of her sons to be just the same.

Religion isn't always just an annoying neighbor for those who aren't followers. If left unchallenged, religion frequently permeates cultures and societies and forces people to convert or suffer. Speaking against some things (yes, even if it hurts those who it is spoken against) is our right, and even our duty as humans. If the non-faithful must endure the pain of living by the laws created and enforced by those who not share our values and ideologies, then I think you can endure the discomfort of a bit of derision.

RnB said...

All very true, I think faith needs to be taken more at face value and analyzed just like any other philosophy. Just IMO

Zombie Jesus needs to fight Moses & the Easter bunny for spring time Holiday SUPREMACY

Santa could referee, HAH!

Anonymous said...

If you faith is so weak as to be injured by a little art contest, than just how pathetic is your faith?

redbean said...

Hey, I'm subscribing *because* of your zombie jesus video.

Very very funny. Sadly, it's only made funnier because it mocks real people's beliefs, but--well, that does make it much MUCH funnier for those of us in the US who have to deal with those people.

So it's pretty hilarious. Thank you for making my Zombie Jesus Easter morning. =)

Lee Christie said...

"What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof."
- Christopher Hitchens

Anonymous said...

It makes me upset when people say they "believe" in Jesus but it also makes me a little bit sad when they say they don't.

Here's why:

Jesus was a Human and a revolutionary. He pointed out that the church and politicians were corrupt. So they killed him.

Much like what happened with Gandhi and Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

They were compassionate people who were striving for fairness and equality.

I believe these men would want us to act as they did rather than merely believing in them.

So I think your contest is brilliant. It pokes fun at the idea of him rising from the dead, and at the same time it's a clever way of symbolizing the church, politicians and followers who continue on the tradition Jesus so disagreed with.

Lee Christie said...

Anonymous, you're assuming Jesus existed even as a human. The story of Jesus was plagiarised from countless other virgin-born sons of god pagan myths. It's all based on astrology and the alignment of stars on December 25th. Jesus was not a famous Rabbi or scholar, he was a myth, a fictional character like Fonzie, which we should have outgrown by now.

Anonymous said...

"Anonymous, you're assuming Jesus existed even as a human. The story of Jesus was plagiarised from countless other virgin-born sons of god pagan myths. It's all based on astrology and the alignment of stars on December 25th. Jesus was not a famous Rabbi or scholar, he was a myth, a fictional character like Fonzie, which we should have outgrown by now."

Previous beliefs were indeed piled onto his story to shape it into what most Christians believe today. And I agree -- if it sounds unreal it probably was. We shouldn't buy into many of the creative liberties writers of the Bible took.

There are also many translations which have occurred, further increasing confusion. Not to mention the debate about whether the Bible should be read interpretively or not.

But there are actual temple ruins in Jerusalem, correct? Romans really did have an empire, right? Dismissing a leader who only lived 2000 years ago as fiction?

When do you start believing history books? People have been pretty good and diligent about at least writing down the names of their leaders for quite a long time. Thousands of years before Christ in fact.

Unfortunately, many "unofficial" leaders who rally for equal rights are turned into martyrs and made to seem larger than life after they're silenced. In that way the corrupt leaders continue to get what they want.. and regular people don't stick their necks out as much. They pray and continue to be subservient.

Ultimately, I wasn't there. I can't show you old footage of Jesus (Yeshua) like I can an old episode of Happy Days. So I understand your beliefs. For me though it's really more about what "Jesus" stood for. What he represents. In that way, you're right, and it doesn't matter if he really lived or not. The message of Love and Compassion lives.

mom2axa said...

I would be interested to see if you are brave enough to make fun of Mohammed.

ZombieJesus said...

Who is Mohammed ??
Did he write a book or was it a play ??

half_pint said...

There is no such thing as freedom of speech unless you can speak without causing offence. Miss Matthewman appears to think she has won the lottery but unfortunately there are somethings money can't buy.

half_pint said...

Actually I don't even think religion comes into it at all, it is your attitude to other people, you basically revealed what a cold heartless cunt you are.

Some people may have had the wrong impression about you but now it is abundantly clear what you are like and consequently they have ditched you.

Maybe you should have made that clear from the start with a name such as CardboardCunt?