Thursday, March 06, 2008

The long tail of fame

This is interesting!

The idea is that a 'true fan' will buy anything you make or sell or provide, and the optimum is 1000 true fans.

i have thought about trying to make more money or sell more things before, but never really figured out what or quite how.

Tshirts with my face on them?? That's just ikky... but what merchandise do you think I should have a go at??

Comment below!! :O

42 comments:

Anonymous said...

The easiest thing would be to merchandise the paperlilies logo on youtube that anyone sees on the right side of their computer while watching one of your youtube videos. Or the logo you see at the end of your films, this pink paperlily. Moreover I loved this calendar you did in uni! I would love to buy one of these if possible... I just love the design and the idea of it! I think you really should put it in your portfolio or take new pictures of it that you are satisfied with. Thanks , Eva

Anonymous said...

it is me again saying sorry for my bad english. I did not mean to merchandise the logo on youtube. I meant you should merchandise the logo you can see there. and then make something out of it.. Eva

Anonymous said...

But if somebody don't have enough money to but Tshirts for 1000$ he can make someting nice for you xD

http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=ubu0GftWpmA

Like this xD

Anonymous said...

Don't think i can come up with anything too earth shatteringly brilliant. But i'll have a go anyway. The 1000 fans idea seems to make good sense as i'm sure there are fans out there just begging for you to do something like this for them.
I'll make a list to keep it short.
1. Jewellery (as it seemed so popular)
2. T-shirts (not necessarily with you portrait on them)
3. Self Portraits (of your various personas in past videos perhaps)
4. Poster copies and signed photo's of the exclusive self portraits and other art work.
5. Items that can easily be customised like mugs, mouse mats , etc.
6. Commissioned sketches/paintings.
7. DVD collection of all you videos with added bonus material.
8. Ebay auctions of signed personal possessions.
9. Commissioned Answer phone voice messages (that's too weard for me!)
10.Photoshoots of you various characters for posters and signed photo's.

That's about all i can think of off the top of my head.

ANON:)

Anonymous said...

you're an artist/graphic designer. i'd say a couple of logos and perhaps some art work on t'shirts, badges, stickers, tote bags...
each season, or year create new work to keep us all keen and buy more ;)
you should check out nubbytwiglet.com she's an artist who did a marketing course and gives out create advice.

-alicia

Anonymous said...

People love your jewellery. Posters of your youtube portraits. A DVD of your best videos. You also design the DVD package. I think you'd probably be able to design great clothes/scarves/handbags/etc. Perfume/cosmetics-simply called "Paperlilies".

WildbillthePirate said...

You Art on T-shirts, custom made like the painting, sold on ebay

tejayce said...

no no no. i think you got that wrong.
your supposed to do what you want to do, and then find 1000 people who like what you do.
your post seems like the opposite, searching for 1000 people who want smth from you, and then doing what they want.

your face on a tshirt? why dont you design the whole thing! how about some weird cute stuff .. when i think about the whole "hello kitty" mania .. thats a pretty profitable area. just design your own line..and then go to a manufacturer? i dont know how the industry works :/

seriously .. go on internet-fast again .. look up in the sky .. dream about what you would love to create .. and then go for it .. even if its a big hassle .. and not as easy as uploading a picture to some internet-shop

i know the whole "putting energy into smth which might not turn out to be profitable" thing .. can be very very de-motivating ... but thats the sad truth about beeing an artist. and the reason why you should enjoy doing what you do: so it doesnt hurt, if it does not sell. even if you ask beforhand, there is never a guarantee people will buy it afterwards. most artist can tell a story about multiple projects which all failed until they finally got lucky.

there is only experience to gain ;)

ChiliLady said...

are you really that greedy?

Anonymous said...

How about a t-shirt with "I hear they have Paperlilies on the internet now!!" and some kind of designed logo.

Goose said...

I like all the ideas people have had, so id buy any of those. A dvd sounds good, of old stuff and some originals not up on the net to sell itself would be good?

I think the reason your other ventures on ebay did so well was the hand made factor, shirts made by machine from a company that you only have contact with via cheque might not sell so well. But you can hardly make 1000 original items by hand.

So in summary i have no idea.

Anonymous said...

chililady said,"are you really that greedy"?
chililady...i think Paperlilies asked not because she's greedy...she asked because she probably thinks that she's at a point in her life where she wants to make her own way in the world, and she wants to do it by working for herself, rather than for someone else. Perhaps your still living at home, but when your on your own it takes cashola in order to eat, keep a roof over your head, pay the bills etc...
Jeff

Austin said...

If you wanted to go the originality route: wristbands that say "Livelilies." Preferably in bright yellow.

Anonymous said...

I think you should have paperlilies that have the Paperlilies logo on them and sell them and you can have different sized ones, or you could sell the origami paper and instructions together so it's like make your own paerlily(s)!
Also to austin, those wristbands are usually for charity and it wouldn't be original and why would it say 'Livelilies' on it?

Kimberl(eigh)y said...

don't do something with your face on it! but you could design cool t-shirts, and just have a paperlilies logo somewhere on the design, small? I donno!

yay t-shirts :o

Anonymous said...

You're likely to currently have about 705 hardcore fans given your currently number of subscribers. I mentioned the Bell Curve and Empirical Rule to you in an earlier post.

Like the article says, it doesn't matter what you sell--the 705 people will likely buy it. It's the price point that matters most--you have to figure out the demographic of those 705 people.

Dave

Anonymous said...

currently/current*

--N-- said...

I would buy posters...

But an art poster, not a poster with your face on it. No offence, but that would just be weird.

JJC1138 said...

I'm not really interested in branded Paperlilies "merch", as such, but I would be interested in stuff with your artwork on.

I think one of your blobs paintings would work really well on a T-shirt. Have you ever submitted a design to Threadless? I bet a well-timed video would help you win the rating phase over there.

Anonymous said...

I don't know about t-shirts just yet, plus the upfront costs.

And I know the original question was about merchandise, but...

While I've only seen a couple of Nalts' vids and think they're ok, I was very impressed with the portrait.

Maybe put up a price list for portrait work (from photos), or even auction off a portrait-like gift certificate or something once a month so there's not too much hanging over your head. Unless you really want to do portrait work.

Funny, but probably true that people would buy your ordinary stuff on Ebay, like those who sell a cup that a celebrity has drunk from or plate of food they ate from. Anything autographed would probably sell to some of your fans.

You could do some stuff for charity, like Ebay's Giving Works where you're not charged fees because the purchase is donated to the charity of your choice. Even selling autographed origami lilies for charity might be something. Diversify your fame!

Oh yeah, how about a Paperlillies bobble-head!

Claytonian said...

Sell t-shirts with my face on them.

I did the shirt thing back when I was a webcomicer actually.

Eshniner Forest said...

How about a P.L. Motor Bike Helmit! No for real you could make lots of cash selling paintings. Be well known for what you love not just youtube. Dont take anything less then your dream. I dont know if you know of this girl chloe cummings. here is her blog. http://www.chloepaintings.blogspot.com/ She sells her paintings on line as well as her paper drawings. Its good. :)

mhr said...

i would by a shirt you designed, not one with your face on it though.

austin said...

@ anon,

the "originality route" with yellow wristbands was a joke. Not sure where you are from but nearly everyone in the world bought a "live stong" one ala lance armstrong, hence "live lilies"...

Anonymous said...

I dont know what you call those but the big sticker thing you can put at the back of your laptop to make it look interesting; you could use some of your artwork for that. A jar of paperlilyshaped cookies in a container showing your artwork. I'm sure like the one with the Nalts portrait would sell really well. You could have different flavored paperlilies basically (chocolate chip, cinnamon etc). Youtuber heads as pins or jewelry; maybe you could do a handwritten spellout of peoples usernames with swarowski crystals...
hmm 3am no proper ideas Ill come back if I have more
hugs
anna(conda1984)

Anonymous said...

Someone mentioned doing cosmetics/perfume called Paperlilies. That would make a funny painting, a fancy-shaped bottle and logo of "Paperlilies perfume".

Anonymous said...

Do you do commissioned art? Or does that stifle creativity and make it work?

You mean the paperlilies store on cafe express isn't your store?

roygbiv said...

In the meantime, you should consolidate all the work you have (like the flickr stuff) for print and sell it (like how deviant art does it) and plug the hell out of that.

Also, you should have a cd of karaoke songs, but just having fun with it, not like you're trying to american idol it or anything.
I would buy that fo sho, especially if it's bad and you break out in the occasional laugh (ie your numbers tribute) I think a lot of other people would eat that up.

roygbiv said...

or yeah going overboard with american idoling it on some songs would be funny too.

Anonymous said...

When I have a minute I can make you some good posters or Tshirts logo! And you rate them on your own!

Greedion

Anonymous said...

Paperlilies kites...the design of said kites being influenced by your knowledge of origami design principles.

Anonymous said...

Kites is a good idea! and art posters! or the wrapping paper for gifts that you have shown in your paperlilies art channel..

davidhok said...

Id design a website with like fun links a store for all of the products people are recommending sorta like http://www.homestarrunner.com. If you want to check out the sweet beginnings of my portfolio site goto http://www.davidhok.com right now its just rollovers. I named it davidhok.com even though Im not very popular on youtube, lol I just thought if in the future I did anything like that for youtube It would be there. Right now its due at the end of the semester in my web class. So you could get someone to design something cute with flash or something and you could design the heck out of it and even have quirky animations and stuff!
good luck to you Bryony, I hope you are wildly successful.
+dh+

Anonymous said...

Heya, Bry. It's Shane. I couldn't be bothered signing in.

I'd say your niche is in art. You don't necessarily only have to sell original works, though those are cool. You could sell copies of certain works. They're easy to make and people want them. That's the beginning of a brilliant marketing venture.

Be Well,
Shane

ZombieJesus said...

I have asked twice and no art work to be sold to the ZJ

Anonymous said...

I've already designed two t-shirts with your face on them. I will sell the designs for $5000 each.

Anonymous said...

edit above comment

that should read I will sell YOU the designs for $5000 each

Anonymous said...

yous all greedy lazy cuntz

Anonymous said...

How about candles.

I would buy a poster or lithograph of your artwork and would pay a premium if you sign it. Did you sign your nalts painting?

Something I've always wanted to do is a website hosting those little picture messages you post on people's social network profiles. If you can brand Paperlilies messages with PL artwork/photos/lily-isms (online cards??) and start advertising on social networking sites (some new ones popping up) you could draw quite a bit of traffic and make some money from ad sponsors. It's one of my crazy ideas I never did--I have a lot of those. :-)

i said...

your jewelry was really cool. i really liked the wrapping paper you did too. i think the best idea for you would be to _design_ things that also are useful. like a notebook. i would totally buy a regular notebook with your design on the front/back, and maybe a greeting inside. like someone else mentioned, i also really like the phrase "i hear they have paperlilies on the internet now". i don't know why, it's just awesome.

Anonymous said...

meh the jewelry was kinda over rated. it was ok but a bit 'spensive for what it was and there is similar stuff around so you know...

Vince said...

I'd buy a T-shirt saying: I'm smarter than Miss West Carolina!

You could always start wearing french maid costumes and sell T-shirts saying: "I let my bf/husband watch paperlilies!" ;)

nah, just kidding

But I think the suggestion selling merchandise of what you do, and not who you are is a good idea. You could write a book about how to get such a nice English accent as you have.